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Mississippi Smoker BBQ Fan

Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 158
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Posted: Nov 28 2007 Post subject: College Football Playoffs |
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To keep from hijacking the KU vs Mizzou thread I am starting this one.
I know some of the fun of arguing college football is whose team is better or whose conference is stronger but college football REALLY needs a playoff system. Below is an article that shows a very workable way to make that happen and it discusses some of the same things that we are already discussing here.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Look at this and give me your thoughts on this. Maybe we will have something else to argue over (all in good fun of course).
Maybe if and when we get the playoff system in place everyone will finally realize that the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE IS BY FAR THE STRONGEST AND BEST CONFERENCE IN THE LAND. |
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krek BBQ Fan

Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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The SEC is unquestionably loaded with talent. Year in and year out the battles are enjoyable to watch (I'm a closet Vol fan )
I'm all for a college playoff system. That way, in the unlikely event that a non SEC school should build a team of National Championship caliber, said team would have an avenue to earn that National Championship and the grudging respect of the SEC teams it would beat. _________________ Traeger Lil Tex
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Mississippi Smoker BBQ Fan

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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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| ABSOLUTELY!!!!! This way the cream rises to the top. My arguement is that the SEC beats the hell out of each other year in and year out. This year we have 2 if not 3 teams that could compete for the National Championship but neither one of them will get to have a shot under the current system. As it sits now 2 of the strongest teams in the country will not be playing for number 1. I know some of this sounds like sour grapes and I reckon it is. The AP and strength of schedule are no longer figured into the mix so if teams want to they can schedule powder puff teams that htye know they can beat to keep their unbeaten record. Then we will surely have the best team come out on top. |
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BangBangBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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Now hold on just a minute.....before all you SEC guys start the back slapping and whooping and hollering.....Let let the BIG 10 chime in
I'm all for a playoff system. I'm all for teams playing the best teams possible. And I do agree with the comment in the other (now completely hijacked thread) that the Buckeyes did pad their schedule this year. However, as I have stated from before the first game, this was suppose to be a rebuilding year. As a result the schedule was down this year because nobody, not even in Columbus, thought we would be in the picture this year. Next year we play USC. We can't help it that nobody took care of their own business this year. I actaully wish the BIG 10 did play in a conference championship game. Our season always ends to early. But to say that they don't belong in a championship game because of it is rediculous. Name one sport besides basketball that have conference playoffs.
The big 10 spent years and years beating the snot out of each other. The SEC has been high the last couple of years...good for you guys, but you can't have it both ways. Either your happy your conference is on top right now, or your upset because the competition is too tough week in and week out! Besides they play powder puffs too, Mississippis State is still in the SEC right Just kidding! We all play under the same ranking system, and we all hate it. Unfortunatly I don't think we will ever go to a playoff system....just don't see it happening. But the current syste is seriously flawed, with out a doubt. _________________ When all is said and done, more will be said than done! |
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Big Mike BBQ Pro
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 863 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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| BangBangBBQ wrote: | Now hold on just a minute.....before all you SEC guys start the back slapping and whooping and hollering.....Let let the BIG 10 chime in
I'm all for a playoff system. I'm all for teams playing the best teams possible. And I do agree with the comment in the other (now completely hijacked thread) that the Buckeyes did pad their schedule this year. However, as I have stated from before the first game, this was suppose to be a rebuilding year. As a result the schedule was down this year because nobody, not even in Columbus, thought we would be in the picture this year. Next year we play USC. We can't help it that nobody took care of their own business this year. I actaully wish the BIG 10 did play in a conference championship game. Our season always ends to early. But to say that they don't belong in a championship game because of it is rediculous. Name one sport besides basketball that have conference playoffs.
The big 10 spent years and years beating the snot out of each other. The SEC has been high the last couple of years...good for you guys, but you can't have it both ways. Either your happy your conference is on top right now, or your upset because the competition is too tough week in and week out! Besides they play powder puffs too, Mississippis State is still in the SEC right Just kidding! We all play under the same ranking system, and we all hate it. Unfortunatly I don't think we will ever go to a playoff system....just don't see it happening. But the current syste is seriously flawed, with out a doubt. |
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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| BangBangBBQ wrote: | | Name one sport besides basketball that have conference playoffs. |
Wrestling. _________________ Mike
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BangBangBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Ohio
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| allsmokenofire wrote: | | BangBangBBQ wrote: | | Name one sport besides basketball that have conference playoffs. |
Wrestling. |
Funny....I knew someone would call me on that.
I actaully played college baseball, and wrestled all through middle and high school....should have though of those. Actually, wrestiling is based more on individual performance, and team scores are derived from that...but point taken....I stand corrected .
I still don't think it should have a bearing on national championship games! I'm sticking to my guns on that one. _________________ When all is said and done, more will be said than done! |
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Mississippi Smoker BBQ Fan

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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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The Big 10 only has 2 teams that could be called quality teams. They are Ohio State and Michigan. Get Notre Dame to join your conference and you will have as many teams as the SEC, then you could have a conference championship and keep playing.
The original gist of my post have been calling for the use of a playoff system, not a shot at any other team or conference.
If we are going on records in the BCS, why isn't Hawaii ranked as number 1.
Nobody said that OSU didn't belong in the championship game because they don't have a conference championship. I said they backed in by virtue of not playing a hard schedule.
Everyone is in agreement that OSU is rebuiling, they SHOULD have a down year, but it is looking like they are going to play in the national championship game this year. That is what I am talking about. During the "down" year do you think that OSU could beat Georgia, LSU, or USC?
And Mississippi State a powderpuff team????? We beat Kentucky who beat #1 LSU. But I agree with you that MSU's name doesn't strike fear in its opponents.... yet.
When all is said and done I would like to see the best team in the nation win. Auburn has been left out in the cold and so has USC.
I really want both #1 and #2 in the BCS to lose this week. I would LOVE to see Georgia playing OSU. Kind of a rematch of last year. |
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tntitan Newbie
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Bethlehem Georgia
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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what ever team out side the sec plays in the title game, one of the sec teams could beat any one of those teams even ole miss .oh and ohio state we showed you last year give us a chance and we will show any team outside the sec .all those news people must live up north _________________ custom made ugly drum smoker/ kcbs judge |
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krek BBQ Fan

Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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| tntitan wrote: | | what ever team out side the sec plays in the title game, one of the sec teams could beat any one of those teams even ole miss |
The SEC must be proud to have you as a fan.  _________________ Traeger Lil Tex
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BangBangBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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| krek wrote: | | tntitan wrote: | | what ever team out side the sec plays in the title game, one of the sec teams could beat any one of those teams even ole miss |
The SEC must be proud to have you as a fan.  |
LOL!
Mississippi Smoker - I was responding the post by allsmokenofire in the other thread that stated - and I quote -
"I also feel like a team shouldn't even be considered for one of the BCS bowls unless their conference has a year end conference championship."
And to answer your question, I think OSU could play with anybody this year. Not because OSU is riding high, but because everyone has proven that they are beatable this year. I do think that strength of schedule should still count. At least that way the teams are accountable. I always feel bad for players on teams like Hawaii. The players play who is in front of them.....administrators make schedules. A playoff system would fix this issue.....gheeeee what a novel idea! _________________ When all is said and done, more will be said than done! |
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Nov 29 2007 Post subject: |
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| BangBangBBQ wrote: | Mississippi Smoker - I was responding the post by allsmokenofire in the other thread that stated - and I quote -
"I also feel like a team shouldn't even be considered for one of the BCS bowls unless their conference has a year end conference championship."! |
Bang, the reason I say this is because the current BCS system severely penalizes teams for losses late in the year(which is when conference championship games are played). The current system favors teams from conferences who don't have a playoff game to determine the conference champion, such as the Big 10 or the Pac 10.
A conference championship game generates additional revenue for the conference, as well as the teams playing in it. Why don't all major conferences have a championship game?? Is it because some conferences feel a loss late in the season will hurt their team's abilities to play in a BCS bowl game?? Is it because they can't divide the number 10 in half?? Who knows??
What I do know is the current BCS system does not favor teams from conferences that have a championship game to determine the winner of their conference...and I don't think a bowl playoff system will help that issue.  _________________ Mike
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Posted: Nov 30 2007 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Now hold on just a minute.....before all you SEC guys start the back slapping and whooping and hollering.....Let let the BIG 10 chime in |
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Big Tom BBQ Super Pro

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Posted: Nov 30 2007 Post subject: |
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Git 'R Done!
I am a Mississippi State Bulldog through bad and good and completely appreciate the uncertainty of who the favorites are in any SEC conference game.
IMHO the strength and credibility of the SEC teams is reinforced by the requirement to play "x" number of conference games each season. It is kind of hard for the SEC teams to get much fluff in thier schedules.
I don't keep up enough with the BCS to understand or worry what it means. Just too much politics and beuracracy for it to be a fool proof system.
And thats all I'm gonna say 'bout that. _________________ Big Tom
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