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Bucksnort101
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Chargriller Fire ?'s Reply with quote

OK, used the new Chargriller 3 times now and still seem to have issues with getting temps down and smoke density correct. Have done the recommended mods for the Chargriller.
Am using a charcoal basket filled with Ranchers charcoal and adding a lit chimney or Ranchers to the top. Have a few chunks of hickory thrown in the coal and throw a few pieced on top.
Problem is it seem I have to close the vent on the sidebox completely in order to get the temp in the main box down to 225 to 250.
I also usually see a think white cloud of smoke for maybe 15 to 20 minutes and then the smoke level dies down to nothing.
From what I've read I'm probably not getting a good clean burning fire on the sidebox, but not sure what to do as I have to close the vent to even get close to proper BBQ temps.
Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont own a chargiller nor have i used one but maybe try using a little less lit charcoal on top of the unlit that way you can leave you vents open allowing oxygen in to keep the fire burning clean and hot. Just a suggestion
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Chargriller Reply with quote

I did try to use 3/4 of a chimney full of lit coal on the second smoke and did not really notice a big difference. Will try half a chimney and see what happens.
Also tried to pre-heat the wood chunks before I added them to the fire, still seemed to just put off a whole bunch of puffy white smoke for 15 to 20 minutes. Hopefully using less lit coal will remedy my problems? I guess I'll know on Sunday after the first Spare Rib smoke (weather permitting).
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a WSM with the Minion Method and I usually only use about 15-20 lit briquettes to begin with.

Your mileage may vary with the Chargriller but I'd try using fewer lit briquettes to begin with.

I'd personally rather have the vents open feeding a nice clean fire than having to close them and let it smolder.
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Less is better. Reply with quote

Looks like less is better. Will try 20-30 lit coals and see if that helps. I think the Ranchers was just burning to hot to begin with, although I still got a good 6 hours of pretty constant temps going.
Will post pics of the Ribs on Sunday if they turn out to be edible. So far have only cooked a couple meatloafs on the smoker, which still turned out to be pretty good even with the fire/smoke issues.
Now if I could only finf some Cherry chunks somewhere in MN!!!
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

too much charcoal. is your chimney all the way open? did you lower the charcoal basket? where is it. start slower on the heat and bring itup
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the firebox door open till the wood is burning and well lit before you close it. The white smoke is from smoldering wood and ya want it to burn rather than smolder, even chunks. I would also suggest you dont mix any chunks in the charcoal, just add one or two to the top once the charcoal is going well and the cooker is up to temp.
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

or your wood might be too high in moisture content,

You not soaking it in water or anything like that?
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: modofications Reply with quote

I have a chargriller and having all the same problems what are the
modifications you guys are talking about
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

First and most important mod is to get a new charcoal grate as the one it comes with is a hunk of crap..!! I find the top of the ash pan guide is the perfect level for the new grate to be able to get a good airflow into the firebox and under the charcoal.

I also have flipped the main cooking chambers ash pan over to act as a baffle, just hang it on the handles so it is suspended aout an inch above the bottom of the cooker.

There are other mods that you can make but I find these two work just fine for me.
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PostPosted: Sep 08 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is the exhaust modification, I read aboutit but donot understand it.
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

roxy wrote:
First and most important mod is to get a new charcoal grate as the one it comes with is a hunk of crap..!! I find the top of the ash pan guide is the perfect level for the new grate to be able to get a good airflow into the firebox and under the charcoal.

I also have flipped the main cooking chambers ash pan over to act as a baffle, just hang it on the handles so it is suspended aout an inch above the bottom of the cooker.

There are other mods that you can make but I find these two work just fine for me.


I agree with roxy on both of these mods. As for your fire. It sounds like you've got too many wood chunks. When you open your air intake they are going to burn alot hotter than the coal and really boost the temp. Just go with a chunk mixed in your basket and one in your chimney. Then add one when you add more charcoal
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

RDGriffith wrote:
what is the exhaust modification, I read aboutit but donot understand it.


This is when you extend the exhaust pipe down to grate level. Here is a link with alot of the different things you can do.

http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=810&highlight=chargriller+mods
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roxy is right, get rid of the charcoal grate. I have found the chargriller to be a better stick burner than a charcoal burner. Try using smaller logs instead of charcoal. you may have better luck with it. Smile
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got mine fired up right now with some apple wood and its humming right along at 245 with a faint blue smoke coming from the chimney... Ribs are looking just fine.

Too bad they are for a family get together and not my dinner plate.

Oh the things I do for my family. Wink
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a chargriller - For 250 degrees (optimum temp for ribs, chicken, ATBs and most things I que), I start out with about 3/4 full of rancher charcoal in a weber charcoal starter. I only throw one fist sized chunk of wood (usually Oak) at a time; any more smoke is overkill IMHP. As long as there is smoke coming out (and not heavy white smoke), i am happy and the que is great.
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PostPosted: Sep 09 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a piece of sheet metal or aluminum flashing from HD and bend it into a crunched up “M” In you charcoal basket. Once that is done, light only one side. This will allow the charcoal to burn on only one side and snake around the corner and finally burn the other. What this mod will do is decrease your temp and increase you burn time.


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PostPosted: Sep 10 2007    Post subject: 180 Degrees Reply with quote

Well, fired up the smoker this Sunday and had the opposite effect this time. Had to fight to keep it over 200 degrees. Filled the charcoal basket 3/4 full of Ranchers and put 30 burning bricks on top. Left the intake open throughout the cook and had to struggle to keep it over 200. Only thing I really changed was the amount of lit coals and I lowered the main chaimbers charcoal tray (inverted) to sit about 1" from the bottom of the cooking chamber.
Outdoor temps were a little cooler that the first cooks, but not that bad, and there was a little more wind, but not too bad.
Guess I'll have to play around a bit more and try to get the hang of this thing.
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PostPosted: Sep 10 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohiobbqfan wrote:
Roxy is right, get rid of the charcoal grate. I have found the chargriller to be a better stick burner than a charcoal burner. Try using smaller logs instead of charcoal. you may have better luck with it. Smile


I have found this out also...I pick-up my logs at Academy sports, and just mainly use logs and a chimney of lump as a firestarter
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