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Bucksnort101 BBQ Fan
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: Chargriller Fire ?'s |
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OK, used the new Chargriller 3 times now and still seem to have issues with getting temps down and smoke density correct. Have done the recommended mods for the Chargriller.
Am using a charcoal basket filled with Ranchers charcoal and adding a lit chimney or Ranchers to the top. Have a few chunks of hickory thrown in the coal and throw a few pieced on top.
Problem is it seem I have to close the vent on the sidebox completely in order to get the temp in the main box down to 225 to 250.
I also usually see a think white cloud of smoke for maybe 15 to 20 minutes and then the smoke level dies down to nothing.
From what I've read I'm probably not getting a good clean burning fire on the sidebox, but not sure what to do as I have to close the vent to even get close to proper BBQ temps.
Any suggestions? |
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gentleman of leisure Newbie
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 97 Location: So. Illinois
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: |
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| I dont own a chargiller nor have i used one but maybe try using a little less lit charcoal on top of the unlit that way you can leave you vents open allowing oxygen in to keep the fire burning clean and hot. Just a suggestion |
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Bucksnort101 BBQ Fan
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: Chargriller |
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I did try to use 3/4 of a chimney full of lit coal on the second smoke and did not really notice a big difference. Will try half a chimney and see what happens.
Also tried to pre-heat the wood chunks before I added them to the fire, still seemed to just put off a whole bunch of puffy white smoke for 15 to 20 minutes. Hopefully using less lit coal will remedy my problems? I guess I'll know on Sunday after the first Spare Rib smoke (weather permitting). |
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ButtWarmersBBQ Newbie
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 77
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OKBBQEA BBQ Pro

Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 809 Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: |
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I use a WSM with the Minion Method and I usually only use about 15-20 lit briquettes to begin with.
Your mileage may vary with the Chargriller but I'd try using fewer lit briquettes to begin with.
I'd personally rather have the vents open feeding a nice clean fire than having to close them and let it smolder. _________________ I only believe in two basic food groups... Chili & BBQ
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Bucksnort101 BBQ Fan
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: Less is better. |
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Looks like less is better. Will try 20-30 lit coals and see if that helps. I think the Ranchers was just burning to hot to begin with, although I still got a good 6 hours of pretty constant temps going.
Will post pics of the Ribs on Sunday if they turn out to be edible. So far have only cooked a couple meatloafs on the smoker, which still turned out to be pretty good even with the fire/smoke issues.
Now if I could only finf some Cherry chunks somewhere in MN!!! |
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motley que
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 20
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too much charcoal. is your chimney all the way open? did you lower the charcoal basket? where is it. start slower on the heat and bring itup _________________ chargriller/sfb with mods
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: |
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Keep the firebox door open till the wood is burning and well lit before you close it. The white smoke is from smoldering wood and ya want it to burn rather than smolder, even chunks. I would also suggest you dont mix any chunks in the charcoal, just add one or two to the top once the charcoal is going well and the cooker is up to temp. _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 8558 Location: The Northwoods
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or your wood might be too high in moisture content,
You not soaking it in water or anything like that? _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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RDGriffith

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sep 08 2007 Post subject: modofications |
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I have a chargriller and having all the same problems what are the
modifications you guys are talking about |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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First and most important mod is to get a new charcoal grate as the one it comes with is a hunk of crap..!! I find the top of the ash pan guide is the perfect level for the new grate to be able to get a good airflow into the firebox and under the charcoal.
I also have flipped the main cooking chambers ash pan over to act as a baffle, just hang it on the handles so it is suspended aout an inch above the bottom of the cooker.
There are other mods that you can make but I find these two work just fine for me. _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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RDGriffith

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Indiana
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| what is the exhaust modification, I read aboutit but donot understand it. |
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Doc1680 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2609 Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: Sep 09 2007 Post subject: |
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| roxy wrote: | First and most important mod is to get a new charcoal grate as the one it comes with is a hunk of crap..!! I find the top of the ash pan guide is the perfect level for the new grate to be able to get a good airflow into the firebox and under the charcoal.
I also have flipped the main cooking chambers ash pan over to act as a baffle, just hang it on the handles so it is suspended aout an inch above the bottom of the cooker.
There are other mods that you can make but I find these two work just fine for me. |
I agree with roxy on both of these mods. As for your fire. It sounds like you've got too many wood chunks. When you open your air intake they are going to burn alot hotter than the coal and really boost the temp. Just go with a chunk mixed in your basket and one in your chimney. Then add one when you add more charcoal _________________ Love the voodoo that Q do.
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Doc1680 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2609 Location: Indianapolis
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ohiobbqfan Newbie
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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Posted: Sep 09 2007 Post subject: |
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Roxy is right, get rid of the charcoal grate. I have found the chargriller to be a better stick burner than a charcoal burner. Try using smaller logs instead of charcoal. you may have better luck with it.  _________________ Bbq is a great addictio
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Posted: Sep 09 2007 Post subject: |
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Got mine fired up right now with some apple wood and its humming right along at 245 with a faint blue smoke coming from the chimney... Ribs are looking just fine.
Too bad they are for a family get together and not my dinner plate.
Oh the things I do for my family.  _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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Cal-B-Que BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 498 Location: Groveland, CA
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| I have a chargriller - For 250 degrees (optimum temp for ribs, chicken, ATBs and most things I que), I start out with about 3/4 full of rancher charcoal in a weber charcoal starter. I only throw one fist sized chunk of wood (usually Oak) at a time; any more smoke is overkill IMHP. As long as there is smoke coming out (and not heavy white smoke), i am happy and the que is great. |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Sep 09 2007 Post subject: |
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Take a piece of sheet metal or aluminum flashing from HD and bend it into a crunched up “M” In you charcoal basket. Once that is done, light only one side. This will allow the charcoal to burn on only one side and snake around the corner and finally burn the other. What this mod will do is decrease your temp and increase you burn time.
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Bucksnort101 BBQ Fan
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 110
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Posted: Sep 10 2007 Post subject: 180 Degrees |
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Well, fired up the smoker this Sunday and had the opposite effect this time. Had to fight to keep it over 200 degrees. Filled the charcoal basket 3/4 full of Ranchers and put 30 burning bricks on top. Left the intake open throughout the cook and had to struggle to keep it over 200. Only thing I really changed was the amount of lit coals and I lowered the main chaimbers charcoal tray (inverted) to sit about 1" from the bottom of the cooking chamber.
Outdoor temps were a little cooler that the first cooks, but not that bad, and there was a little more wind, but not too bad.
Guess I'll have to play around a bit more and try to get the hang of this thing. |
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dinty BBQ Fan

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Lewisville, TX
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Posted: Sep 10 2007 Post subject: |
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| ohiobbqfan wrote: | Roxy is right, get rid of the charcoal grate. I have found the chargriller to be a better stick burner than a charcoal burner. Try using smaller logs instead of charcoal. you may have better luck with it.  |
I have found this out also...I pick-up my logs at Academy sports, and just mainly use logs and a chimney of lump as a firestarter _________________ WSM
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