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BangBangBBQ BBQ Fan

Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Ohio
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| mds2 wrote: | | I do have to say this is the most entertaining thread in a while. |
Agreed! I should be working, but I keep checking it....  _________________ When all is said and done, more will be said than done! |
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bluesman250 BBQ Pro
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 802
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Posted: Aug 14 2007 Post subject: |
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| roxy wrote: | | Lewis & Herschel wrote: | Frankily, this is a stupid thread. For home cooks, their are no rules, and for comp cooks, Pellets are legal. Outside of that, this whole thing is Blah, Blah, Blah.
I hear the French love a good horse, especially after it has been beaten to death. I wonder if they would cook it on Pellets or an Offset and maybe inject it with FAB H. |
Nothing wrong with a good horse steak, as long as ya dont know what it is till after your done eating it..  |
Does Horse taste like chicken by any chance? |
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istock74 BBQ Pro

Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 965 Location: Logan, IA
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Posted: Aug 14 2007 Post subject: |
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This post has really become detrimental to my productivity at work today. Ive spent so much time checking it, I might as well go home and cook some Q!!  |
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adolpho BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 1067 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Aug 14 2007 Post subject: Re: Pellet Cooker, glorified oven or BBQ Pit, reposted |
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| bluesman250 wrote: | | ... And while FEC's and treagers are not robots, they do not have NEARLY the learning curve..... |
Like you're WSM doesn't take out a lot of the learning curve either? WSMs may not have a plug, but fire-tending is not an issue with them once you get it going. Sounds like it's cheating traditional old fire-management to me.
I'm sitting here wondering why I'm defending pellet cookers and realize it's because I'm just defending anyone who enjoys queing. Why are you taking a jab at them? I don't own one, so don't call me envious. I'm surprised no ceramic cooking guys have weighed in. Once they get their pit to temp, it's set and forget (them lazy ba*ds) and their technology is hundreds of years old. I dare you to say they are cheating. _________________ "Tag line? We don't need no stinkin' tag line!"
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OddThomas BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2010 Location: North Carolina
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| istock74 wrote: | This post has really become detrimental to my productivity at work today. Ive spent so much time checking it, I might as well go home and cook some Q!!  |
Yeah I went ahead and took a vacation day, lmao. |
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dabaslab BBQ Pro

Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 515
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Yeah this thread got so whacked that I had several of the staff members here at work in my office reading it. I guess we will all need to take a vacation day.
Dabaslab _________________ Son Seekers BBQ Team |
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skybob BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Wichita, KS
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Hell, I might as well chime back in. I Q'd on a stickburner for many years, took some time to get it dialed in to make Q to suit my tastes. After that, I could reproduce the flavor, bark, smoke ring, tenderness probably 85% of the time I Q'd. Sometimes I just plain screwed up or got some meat that wasn't up to par.
THEN, I decided that I needed a little more sleep, beauty or otherwise and got a Traeger. Let me tell you, if you think there isn't a learning curve on them, you're sadly misinformed. It took several sessions to get back to where I was with the stickburner. But, at least I was more sociable to everyone around rather than snapping their heads off because I was so tired.
Like I have always said, it's the cook, not the cooker that makes for a successful smoke. |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Right on Bob..
Was wondering when you'd get here.  _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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BBQMAN BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 15475 Location: Florida
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Posted: Aug 14 2007 Post subject: |
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Wow is right Roxy, I just couldn't wait to get home for some more entertainment!
Now see there bluesman, you did go over the line on the pitmaster thing.
This thread actually had the potential to be informative, but just went clear off the tracks.
Now I'm not a big fan of pellet cookers, but I don't put folks down that use them. Some of the guys here that do have done quite well with them (be it personal or proffesional use), and I respect that.
You should as well!  _________________ BBQMAN
"I Turned A Hobby Into A Business".
Providing "IMHO" Since 2005. |
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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| BBQMAN wrote: | Wow is right Roxy, I just couldn't wait to get home for some more entertainment!
Now see there bluesman, you did go over the line on the pitmaster thing.
This thread actually had the potential to be informative, but just went clear off the tracks.
Now I'm not a big fan of pellet cookers, but I don't put folks down that use them. Some of the guys here that do have done quite well with them (be it personal or proffesional use), and I respect that.
You should as well!  |
I just got to say I dont ever want it said that I am opinionated...!!! _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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Doc1680 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2609 Location: Indianapolis
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I could use many analogies for this but I will equate this to driving a car. It used to be everybody could drive a stick cause that's all there was. Then as automatics popped up on the scene the oldschool guys would scoff at anybody that drove one. Now, and I don't have the figures, there are probably more people driving automatics than sticks. I remember talking to my niece when she first was learning to drive. "You should learn to drive a stick", I said. She looked at me as if I told her she should head to the livery and mount up. "Why would I want to do that. This is easier."
Now before I get smashed, all I'm saying is that with technology making all things easier to do some people are going to find that they would rather not bother with the old way. There will be others that will stick with tradition. And still others that appreciate and learn both.
I don't have a problem either way. Although I have to say I'm a fan of learning about what got you to this point. _________________ Love the voodoo that Q do.
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roxy BBQ All Star

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 9331 Location: Wasaga beach, Ontario
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Doc:
There was a day when cars had a big old crank out front to get them started and coal oil lamps for head lights, flat head engines...
I got to say I sure do enjoy reading this thread. _________________ Chargriller Akorn
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skybob BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Wichita, KS
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Well, Roxy, I was in on the first one that got dumped. Figgered that someone was trying to tell us something with the dumping. Probably much ado about nothing.
Oh well, finally got back to the computer and had my say.
Basically, give me any pit and I'll be able to use it to turn out decent Q. It'd just take a couple times to turn out really good Q.
It's the cook, not the cooker. It's just that I like easier stuff now with all the other crap in my life at the moment. With all the OT I"m putting in now, not to mention having to get up at 6am every day to take my wife to work and then pick her up at 10:30 to take her to PT for her arm & shoulder. If I used anything else that I had to attend to all the time like a stickburner, I just wouldn't have the time or energy to BBQ anymore. |
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skybob BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Wichita, KS
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Were these done on a Traeger or a stickburner??
I dare anyone to say they weren't really good ribs. Quite a bit better than the ones I'd done on my stickburner. |
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CrazyChef Site Admin

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 1760 Location: Worcester, MA
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| Quote: | | If I had the time (and I don't) to compete more often, I do believe My team could do very well |
Well, Mike - You know you've got me for a team volunteer! I would LOVE to do a comp with you!!!
P.S. As long as I can get the time off of work. The owners are from Kansas City, so I think they would understand  _________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits" - Albert Einstein |
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Doc1680 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2609 Location: Indianapolis
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| roxy wrote: | Doc:
There was a day when cars had a big old crank out front to get them started and coal oil lamps for head lights, flat head engines...
I got to say I sure do enjoy reading this thread. |
True my friend. I can still remember how to program a computer with 0's and 1's. That doesn't mean I want to!
This was a good one. Been a while since I seen the fur fly like this. _________________ Love the voodoo that Q do.
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Tom-Fl
Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2
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As mentioned,since most pelletmunchers progressed through kettles,WSM s,stickburners,and some ancient eggs[ as well as in ground pits and smokehouses]-I figure it is about time that bluesman offer to swap cookers with some of them and show us how the" set it and walk away pellet cooker "is that easy and takes no pitmaster skills.
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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| bluesman250 wrote: | | I will point out 1 fact. It is sheer HYPOCRISY to allow pellet cookers in comps, but not gas. Its embarrassing to the organizers to say one set it and forget it oven cooker is OK, and 1 is not. |
Geezy creezy...miss a few days for the PGA and a Rush concert in Dallas(which was AWESOME, btw ) and all heck breaks loose!
Sorry bluesman...but your statement is not a fact, and it's not hypocrisy. KCBS does not allow gas or electric smokers in contests because of the USDA definition of barbecue, which is "meat slow cooked over wood or coals from wood". Pellet cookers fall under that definition completely. That's it...plain and simple. Hopefully, a little background info will help you form an educated opinion.  _________________ Mike
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allsmokenofire BBQ All Star

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 5051 Location: Oklahoma
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| Jeff Hughes wrote: | | Do you think rotisserie cookers should be banned as well? What about a Guru on a Stumps, is that not set it and forget it? |
I hope not...the boss says this pit better last me awhile.  _________________ Mike
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CrazyChef Site Admin

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 1760 Location: Worcester, MA
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PLEASE folks, may I quote Jeff Hughes ONCE AGAIN:
| Quote: | | It's the cook, not the cooker... |
Thank you, and let's all just enjoy some good/great/fantastic BBQ! _________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits" - Albert Einstein |
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