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Workaholic Newbie
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Kansas
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Posted: May 08 2019 Post subject: I need recommendations for cookers |
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I know I've been gone a while. Probably missed quite a bit.
I need new cookers. Stores I have local are Home Depot, Menards, Lowes, Academy, Cabela's, Walmart, and not quite as local but close, Tractor Supply.
My last offset smoker I gave away, when I transferred out to Guam. While there, I converted an Electric ECB to charcoal. I gave it away when I retired from that career, and left Guam. I've been retired for about 4 and a half years now. We also had a gas grill that rusted out after about 3 years. About a year after the old one rusted out, the wife bought me this masterbuilt 7 in 1 gas/charcoal smoker/grill combo. Picked it up cheap, from someone here local that was thinning his herd. Doesnt really seem to perform that well. Might be able stick the bottom from a Weber on it and use it that way, but haven't explored that option too much. Outside diameter is 17". So now I'm in search of new ones. Cruising the websites of the local stores and reading reviews can only get you so far.
I need a gas grill for the wife to be able to use, since she likes to grill. I'm thinking 2-4 burners, on a cart, and probably should be cost efficient. $300 or less, preferably, and the lower the better, if possible.
The smoker is a different options. What I want out of it, vs what the wife wants... I kind of like the option of being able to go out and tend the fire every so often. The wife would prefer one that's as close to set it and forget it as possible. Since the kids are grown, and for the most part out of the house, without kids and grandchildren visiting for the holidays in the near future, we are looking at being able to fit at least a 12lb turkey in it, preferably being able to slide a 24 pounder in it if things change and they do visit. ( 3 kids, 2 son in laws, and 4 grandchildren). Options for a smoker include, but are not limited to WSM, Dyna Glow offset vertical: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Dyna-Glo-Heavy-Duty-Vertical-Offset-Charcoal-Smoker-and-Grill/1000567709, Oklahoma Joe's highland reverse flow smoker (top of the price range): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Oklahoma-Joe-s-Highland-Reverse-Flow-Offset-Smoker/280412839?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1148&adid=22222222228127423279&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=234447662311&wl4=pla-385382459009&wl5=9024253&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112562587&wl11=online&wl12=280412839&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw2cTmBRAVEiwA8YMgzaoHfhb7gHbLlgY-JD2OlesMg-msKoUS5UZ3ldcy5qbmjkSfX8WcahoCawkQAvD_BwE. I'm open to other ideas. I know an UDS will be brought up. I have semi limited skills. In other words I can't weld, nor do I have a cutting torch. I have basic tools, including a drill (but no jig saw), and the ability to use them. However I struck out on my search of craigslist for barrels locally. I'd probably have to order one online and have it shipped. I also do not have a weed burner, to clean the inside of a barrel. If other ways to do what was needed were mentioned, I'd be open to an UDS. However I wonder if I would want a 55 gallon one or 30.... this also came to mind: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Pit-Barrel-19-in-H-x-18-5-in-W-324-sq-in-Black-Charcoal-Vertical-Smoker/1000340899
Any and all opinions are welcome. Thanks. _________________ -rich |
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ArnoldZiffel BBQ Fan

Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 136 Location: Chantilly, VA
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Posted: May 09 2019 Post subject: |
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Rich,
Sorry I can't help with the gas grill. Never owned one and have no idea how to operate one let alone what options I would want.
As far as the smoker I'll tell you what I have. I have a New Braunfels offset my wife bought me about 25 years ago. I don't think they are around any longer, but plenty of other brands. I can get 3-4 8# butts on it, no problem. A 24# turkey would be easy to fit. It does take a bit of attention to keep the fire going.
I just purchased a Pit Boss Series 4 vertical smoker from Lowes. Got tired of tending to the smoker every hour or so. Now I can set the temp and walk away. Only done two smokes on it, both ribs. They turned out pretty good. It does maintain the set temp within 10-15 degrees. Better then I could do with the offset. There are around 1300 sq inches of space, about 5 racks, so plenty of space to smoke as much as you want. A word of caution as some people have had problems with the pellets if they get wet as they can clog the auger. Just do some research. I keep the pellets inside, and don't smoke if rain is forecast. I'll use the other smoker.
Good luck. At least you have several stores to choose from. Where I live its Lowes, or Wally World.
Craig _________________ New Braunfels
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Workaholic Newbie
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Kansas
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Posted: May 09 2019 Post subject: |
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Craig,
Thanks for the reply. I looked into the pit boss smokers, one of the Pro series. I wound up ruling it out, after some thought, because I do, to an extent, enjoy the fire tending aspect of smoking. That's why I'm leaning towards an offset. However, space is limited under the covered porch, so I was thinking vertical offset for the smaller footprint. I reckon I could keep it in the garage, but I'm not too keen on moving it from there to the backyard everytime I want to use it. The gasser is only for convenience. The wife has a few physical issues that limit what she can do, so that would make it easier on her. _________________ -rich |
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Workaholic Newbie
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Kansas
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Posted: May 22 2019 Post subject: |
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Interesting... 12 days, 191 views, and only 1 response. Gas grill was locked in, and ordered. Still up in the air on a smoker. Offset, WSM, or UDS, seems to be the question at this point. If uds, I'll probably go through big poppa smokers for a pre drilled kit. If WSM, I'm lost on what size to get. I'm mainly on the fence between the 18.5 and 22.5. Most of my cooking will be for me, the wife, and son. The daughters and grandchildren dont live close. If they do decide to visit for the holidays, I'll all of a sudden go to cooking for around 12. There is always the possibility of potlucks at work, too. And in that case I'll be cooking a side or main for 40 people. Any advice? _________________ -rich |
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YardFullOfOak BBQ Fan
Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 207 Location: In the woods of Sweden
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Posted: May 22 2019 Post subject: Gas grills |
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Most gas grills are pretty useless, as they don't have enough power. If the one you already bought can be returned after a test drive, make sure that it can actually get some decent heat for grilling before you decide to keep it.
A kamado style cooker is low maintenance and allows you to both smoke and grill. A bit more work than cooking on a gas grill, though.
As to proper smokers, there are lots of old discussions here. |
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Bigpappa1 Newbie
Joined: 25 Jun 2012 Posts: 73 Location: Cedar Falls, IA
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Posted: Jun 10 2019 Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'm mainly on the fence between the 18.5 and 22.5. Most of my cooking will be for me, the wife, and son. The daughters and grandchildren dont live close. If they do decide to visit for the holidays, I'll all of a sudden go to cooking for around 12. There is always the possibility of potlucks at work, too. And in that case I'll be cooking a side or main for 40 people. Any advice? |
I own the 18.5" WSM. It can cook more than enough for my immediate family. Even though our two kids (one isn't even born yet) are very small, I know from experience that it can cook enough for all of them. I've had parties where I have fed about 40 people with my WSM and a couple grills. It all depends on what you cook. You can easily fit two butts on the 18.5 WSM. That feeds a lot of people. Same for two smaller briskets, or briskets you've trimmed up a bit. I cooked a competition brisket on mine.
The beauty of the 18.5 is that it's tight, it's efficient, and it doesn't use a ton of fuel. Plus it's not so heavy to lug around. The same cannot be said for the 22. That one is pretty heavy and though I don't know from experience, I hear it burns a bit more fuel. All of that said, there are days where I wish I had the 22 as well. Nobody ever complained about having too much room. If you see yourself cooking larger meals, like for 40 people, as something you will be doing on the regular, get the 22. Or if you don't mind having a pretty big smoker and supplying the fuel, get the 22. If you would rather run a bit leaner and meaner 95% of the time, get the 18.5. I will never sell mine, if that says anything. _________________ "Good night...if it's the apocalypse, good luck" - Sheldon Cooper
On Fridays I usually tell people I'm going to smoke something this weekend. They tend to get the wrong idea... |
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