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JasonZ



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26 14 9:16 pm    Post subject: $1200 welder ? Reply with quote

Hello,
I can spend up to $1200 on a new or used machine. What would you look for on craigslist? What would you buy new? That sticky thread is helpful, thank you!

Read through some posts and most budgets were about 500 or less. Am I getting more machine than I will ever use at 1200? I really would like to avoid upgrading later if i stick with it.

Not trying to start a side business. I expect to make a few UDS baskets, odd and end things around the house, a fence, grill, thickest being a propane offset. Will need to be able to weld stainless.

I know nothing about welding, but will put time in to learn the fundamentals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26 14 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I like this machine. With the correct wire and gases the possibilities are nearly limitless. It is dual voltage too.

http://store.cyberweld.com/mi211migwewi.html?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26 14 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just a hobbyist but this is what I bought a few years ago. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/product.php?model=M00456

It's a very nice machine but the things most important in my buying decision was the duty cycle and the material thickness that it can handle. I can crank on 1/4" plate all-day-long.

You can find these used for around $1,200 and new 211's (30% duty) go for around $1,200 also.

You'll need a TIG unit for the stainless. That's another class of machine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all you really need.
http://store.cyberweld.com/homigweneha2.html
To weld stainless just buy a roll of stainless wire and get the proper gas.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
This is all you really need.
http://store.cyberweld.com/homigweneha2.html
To weld stainless just buy a roll of stainless wire and get the proper gas.


Wow! Didn't know that was out there. And what a great price!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokin Mike wrote:
Wow! Didn't know that was out there. And what a great price!


I agree! Like to have one of those!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the responses!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokin Mike wrote:
k.a.m. wrote:
This is all you really need.
http://store.cyberweld.com/homigweneha2.html
To weld stainless just buy a roll of stainless wire and get the proper gas.


Wow! Didn't know that was out there. And what a great price!



I agree with K.A.M. All I have is the 140.
If you purchase from Tractor Supply there is a 10% off coupon for the 4th of July.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a pretty good price, I still cant believe kam just recommended a wire machine Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blazer wrote:
That is a pretty good price, I still cant believe kam just recommended a wire machine Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Hahaha. Laughing The only reason is that was the topic Blazer. Very Happy Now if JasonZ had said he was looking at either a stick or a wire feed that 210 Hobart would've never entered my mind. Wink Very Happy Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this worth it? Seems it is comparable to some of the above suggested machines

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/4533217857.html[/list]
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonZ wrote:
Is this worth it? Seems it is comparable to some of the above suggested machines

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/4533217857.html[/list]


Need to remove that list tag from the end of your URL. Here's the fixed link; http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/4533217857.html

And here's the spec sheet for anybody that wants to look at it.; http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/en_US/Products/K2473-1/e724.pdf

The couple of things I noticed were they don't mention the ability to run stainless wire and to do 1/4" material you'll need to multi-pass it with flux core wire.

The machine that k.a.m. suggested will let you do 1/4" material using C25 gas, the preferred way to do it.

Here's the spec sheet for that machine; http://www.hobartwelders.com/pdf/spec_sheets/Handler_210MVP.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokin Mike wrote:
The couple of things I noticed were they don't mention the ability to run stainless wire and to do 1/4" material you'll need to multi-pass it with flux core wire.

Mike, the Lincoln is gas capable it will run stainless wire, all you have to do is change your gas mix and buy a spool of stainless wire.
The machine is worth the money if it performs, I would at least make sure it works before purchasing it.
Here is a review I found on it.
http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?58561-Lincoln-180c-review
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27 14 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
Smokin Mike wrote:
The couple of things I noticed were they don't mention the ability to run stainless wire and to do 1/4" material you'll need to multi-pass it with flux core wire.

Mike, the Lincoln is gas capable it will run stainless wire, all you have to do is change your gas mix and buy a spool of stainless wire.
The machine is worth the money if it performs, I would at least make sure it works before purchasing it.
Here is a review I found on it.
http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?58561-Lincoln-180c-review


Ok, thanks. The spec sheet from Lincoln didn't mention it. If you weren't here to keep me straight then I'd definitely be running amuck. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29 14 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thermal arc 181 is less than $1000 and gets good reviews.

It does mig, arc and tig.
The arc is very convenient to do outside work and only weighs 32lbs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25 14 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stainless can be stick welded as well as MIG and TIG. Be sure to match the grade of stainless with your wire, otherwise you can get cracks as the weld cools. MIG welding stainless works best with a tri-mix of three gases, argon, helium and co2 I beleive, in spray-transfer mode (your arc will hiss instead of sputtering).

I'm a Miller guy myself, in the shop here I've got a 251 for MIG and a Syncrowave 450 for stick and TIG. Awesome tools to have.
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