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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: 250 Gallon Propane Tank Question. Pic Included |
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I've got my tank, and got it fully of soapy water. We plan on cutting the tank within the next few days, and I'm stuck on how we should cut it.
I would like for the tank to be roughly 6 ft long (it's 7'4 right now), but I can't decide if I want to cut off both ends and give the grill a barrell type shape, or leave one of the curved ends on it. I plan on making a reverse flow type of cooker with a fire box on the side.
Are there any benefits to cutting off both ends and capping them w/ plate metal vs leaving one end rounded?
I would either cut it in the vicinity of the orange marking and leave the other end rounded or cut both ends of the tank where the feet currently are.
Any suggestions?
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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ThrillSeeker, personally I would not cut off either end and start from there. But if you want the 6' long then I would only cut one end, for two reasons one I would not have to buy plate to cap but most importantly I would already have a solid end and not much chance for warpage. |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All Star

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Haaseman BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 475 Location: Granite Falls, Wa.
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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and use gloves with the ice!  |
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icecoldkicks BBQ Pro

Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 585 Location: SoDo District Georgetown, Seattle
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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I have never cut into one, but have studied, like they said, Dry Ice, make sure to have gloves,
follow this link to HillbillySmoker's step by step build
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17388
he might be the guy to ask, he actually has a pic with the hand saw before & after!
Good Luck, send pics after the cut & how you did it please
JP _________________ 287Gal RF Project
Slow & Low, That is the Tempo!! |
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mds2 BBQ Super Pro
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 1366 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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On mine I cut one bell off about 2 inches from the seam, then I cut a section out and welded the bell back on. _________________
The Saucy Lads BBQ Team |
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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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Thx. What's the purpose of the dry ice? |
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icecoldkicks BBQ Pro

Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 585 Location: SoDo District Georgetown, Seattle
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dry ice & a little bit of Water helps makes it inert, it should completly purge the tank!
just helps free the tank of unwanted fumes  _________________ 287Gal RF Project
Slow & Low, That is the Tempo!! |
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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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Oh.....Dang it. We filled that thing up w/ degreaser and water, and it's been sitting for about a week. We plan on cutting it while it's still full of water. |
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txfireguy2003 BBQ Fan
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 130
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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You can cut it while it's full of water. That's what I did and I'm still here. The idea of the dry ice is that as it evaporates, the CO2 is heavier than the propane and will force any vapors out of the tank, making it safe. Water is heavier than either CO2 or propane (technically more dense, but that's the engineer in me) so it will ALSO serve the same purpose. That said, make sure to fill it FULL, meaning put a lifting device under one end and slowly lift it, then do the other end, watching the opening for bubbles. When you can lift both ends with no bubbles, shove the hose back in there and let it overflow until you don't see anymore oil coming out with the water (that's the rainbow looking film on the water). Once you've done all that, cut away. A note of caution however, if using an abrasive cutting tool such as a hand grinder like I did, you, your clothing, tools and basically everything within about 15 feet will get soaked, but it sure does make a pretty cut when you're done. |
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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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Thanks txfireguy2003. We're debating on whether to use a cutting torch or a saw w/ a metal cutting blade. I have a buddy that's a welder that will cut it and cut out the doors for about 20 bucks....or we can hack away w/ the skill saw for a few hours for free. I'll post pics as soon as we get this thing cracked open. |
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Haaseman BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 475 Location: Granite Falls, Wa.
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Posted: Aug 21 2008 Post subject: |
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You might be a thrill seeker but be careful with that saw or the only thing we will get pictures of is the aid care. Water and electricity don't mix well.  |
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txfireguy2003 BBQ Fan
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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For 20 bucks, go to the weldor to do it for you. You'll spend that much in blades for your saw, plus, what's your time worth? Just what I would do anyway, I wish I new somebody that was good with a torch who would make all those cuts for 20 bucks. Hey, if he's a buddy, maybe he'll do it for 12 pack? |
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JimmieOhio BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1125 Location: east side of Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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Haaseman wrote: | Water and electricity don't mix well.  |
Sure they do and I can prove it. Every time I'm in the shower, the telephone rings!
 _________________ Jimmie Ohio
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"Never criticize a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then, criticize him all you want since you're a mile away and you have HIS shoes." |
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Jeff_From_VA BBQ Pro
Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 720
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: Re: 250 Gallon Propane Tank Question. Pic Included |
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ThrillSeeker wrote: |
Are there any benefits to cutting off both ends and capping them w/ plate metal vs leaving one end rounded? |
Yes. If you only cut off one end, you only have to come up with steel to weld onto one end. If you are set on making it shorter, I would leave one end as is. Sure it may look funny, but will be cheaper to do. You cut both, and you just tossed out material for one side to replace it with more material.
Another option. Cut out a few feet of the middle and weld it back together. Then you buy nothing to shorten it other then welding supplies. And you get a nice rounded end on both sides.
That said, why not leave it full size? I have yet to read a single post where someone says "My smoker is too big". I have however read plenty of posts that say the opposite. |
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mrcustomsteel BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 1997 Location: Bilings, still a Texan, MT
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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Bingo Jeff. Don't make it smaller. Thrill, you will most likely regret not having more space at some point.
Also, think about cutting the door at 12 and 4 ( or 8 ) like on a clock so you can get at least three shelves in it. If you cut at 12 and 3 (or 9) you are wasting about 6" on a tank that size.
I'd torch cut it full of water. Unless you have a DC saw I would not stand in water with an electric tool. _________________ D. Tillery
Texan transplanted in Billings, MT
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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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Wow....lots of food for thought. Thanks fellas. I think I'm gonna cut it on the inside seam on the right hand side and go ahead and buy beer for my buddy and let him cut away. If I cut it at the seam, that will put the entire cooker at roughly 6'9 - 7 ft long.
That's the first bit of advice that I got on the doors mrcustomsteel. I'm thinking about doing 2 doors w/ the 6 inch piece in between the two and a hinge on that piece for the rare event where I cook a whole pig. |
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mrcustomsteel BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 1997 Location: Bilings, still a Texan, MT
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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That seam might overlap on the inside so cut it a couple of inches off the weld so you are not cutting through double thick steel. _________________ D. Tillery
Texan transplanted in Billings, MT
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Rub the Butt BBQ BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 426 Location: Southeast GA
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Posted: Aug 22 2008 Post subject: |
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When I cut mine I used an 18V sawzall to cut it open then took the torches to it. Just open the tank up before puttin the fire to it. _________________ Todd
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ThrillSeeker
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Aug 24 2008 Post subject: Whoo Hoo! Still Alive! |
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We, we didn't electrocute ourselves, and didn't blow ourselves up either.
The smell eminating from the tank had us a little worried, but it was full of degreaser and water when we cut it. We opened it up w/ a cordless saw, and then my buddy put the torch to it. IMHO, he's pretty good w/ a torch, and he didn't even get wet from all the water gushing out. Cutting out doors and making a baffle for the offset are next.
The black stuff is burnoff from the paint that's on the tank now. The cut was much straighter than I imagined it would be, but there's still a bunch of grinding to do. Here's a pic from my phone.
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