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smokin jimmy
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Oct 06 06 1:11 am Post subject: First Timer |
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I just purchased a smoker(Char Griller w/ side firebox) and need some advice for what to use when I start my first fire for smoking. The owners manual suggests using logs. I have read on this board that some use lump charcoal, wood chunks, charcoal briquettes, or a combination. Any suggestions for a first timer looking to smoke a 4# brisket?
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FLETCH Newbie

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 84 Location: Ashland,NE
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Posted: Fri Oct 06 06 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| I would stay away from the brickets,I start mine with lump coal and then when the meat goes on put chunks of wood in the sfb.I would recommend not to soak the wood,seem to create to much smoke.The brickets make so much ash.I am going to try some small logs in mine this weekend. |
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Alien BBQ BBQ All-Star

Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645 Location: Roswell, New Mexico
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Posted: Fri Oct 06 06 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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If the photo is what you have then it is a wood (log) burner. You want the initial smoke (without food) to be to about 350 degrees after you have sprayed the inside of the cooking chamber with cooking oil to season it. Afterwards you want to build a smaller brisk fire (instead of a big one) and keep your smoke level down to a minimum. You can start the fire with charcoal but use wood to cook with. The smoker on the right is burning correctly; the one on the left will give you some nasty tasting food.
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smokemaster BBQ Fan

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sat Oct 07 06 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Alien,
The pics are great. Are the last 2 the way the fire should look? I've yet to use logs in my SS and look forward to trying it as recommended
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4512&highlight=
Could you post an "Idiots Guide to Starting a Log Fire for your Smoker"??
This would help me immensely! _________________ Modified WSM
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badcat222 Newbie

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 84 Location: Lubbock, TX
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Posted: Sat Oct 07 06 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I use a side fire box smoker with an expanded metal charcoal basket in the fire box. (12" x 12" x 8"). I fill the basket with lump, start some in the charcoal chimney, then pour the burning coals on top of the unlit coals in the basket. Using lump I get about a 5-6 hour burn. Also mix a few chunks of wood in the basket for smoke. _________________ Screw the whales, save the Cowboy. |
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Pointerman BBQ Fan

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 119 Location: Valley Center, KS
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Posted: Wed Oct 18 06 2:36 pm Post subject: What I do |
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I like to get the lump going good in a charcoal starter chimney, place some more lump and the chunks or logs in the bottom of the smoker and then pour the coals on top of the wood causing it to have to burn down to the new lump and wood. Lasts a really long time. _________________ Andy
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Thomas P. BBQ Pro

Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 596 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 18 06 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same pit you're talking about. It works really well with lump charcoal, but briquettes create too much ash and choke the box really quick.
I also use straight wood in mine. Either go with a store bought bag of chunks (fist sized) or tree limbs. Cut the limbs down to about 12", make sure they're good and seasoned, and keep the size under about 2" in diameter, and that pit will work like a dream.
If you start feeding the char-griller split logs, the fire gets too hot for it quick, and your pit temps run away. Also, the fire rack inside the offset box is a piece of crap, and can't take the heat.
Good luck! _________________ Leading the quest to abolish propane from Que'dom...
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Portergolf BBQ Fan

Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 168 Location: Marietta, GA
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Posted: Thu Oct 19 06 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same grill and I am going to "season" it tonight.
What exactly does seasoning it require you to do? _________________ Pigs Worst Nightmare |
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Malcrow Newbie
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Metro-Detroit
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Posted: Thu Jan 04 07 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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So does anyone soak the wood in water.
Some people have suggested I do this but with just charcoal I don't seem to get enough heat unless the wood is burning.
Of course it is 40 degrees here. _________________ Malcrow
Char-griller with SFB
Vermont Casting gas grill (best gas grill I have ever owned.) |
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SoEzzy Site Admin

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 4999 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Thu Jan 04 07 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Malcrow wrote: | So does anyone soak the wood in water.
Some people have suggested I do this but with just charcoal I don't seem to get enough heat unless the wood is burning.
Of course it is 40 degrees here. |
You may soak wood chips in water when you are putting them on a hot charcoal fire, but I wouldn't every soak your wood if you are burning wood "sticks."
Another move you could make to get more heat would be to use lump charcoal as the good stuff burns hotter than charcoal brikets. _________________ JM2C, BWTFDIK, YMMV, MDN!
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Malcrow Newbie
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Metro-Detroit
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Posted: Thu Jan 04 07 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I will use lump after I run out of the charcoal I bought at sams club _________________ Malcrow
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barnburner180 BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 460 Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Thu Jan 04 07 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Malcrow wrote: | | I guess I will use lump after I run out of the charcoal I bought at sams club |
Me too !! Where does everyone get their lump coal from ? _________________ KCBS Master Judge |
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Rub the Butt BBQ BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Location: Southeast GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 04 07 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I get my Royal Oak Lump from Wally World........aka Wal Mart. _________________ Todd
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BigOrson BBQ Pro

Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 774 Location: Marietta, GA...late of New Orleans (Damn you, Katrina!)
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Posted: Fri Jan 05 07 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| barnburner180 wrote: | | Malcrow wrote: | | I guess I will use lump after I run out of the charcoal I bought at sams club |
Me too !! Where does everyone get their lump coal from ? |
I've tried a lot of brands. Cowboy is good. About the only one I haven't liked is the Kingsford. It has large dense chunks and just doesn't give the quick, hot burn I want when I'm grilling.
It might lend itself best to smoking, but when I use charcoal for that purpose, I'm using charcoal as a cheat to get my chunk fire going.
The brand I fall back on time and again is Whole Foods' 365 brand. It's about $5 for a bag and delivers a good value for the price. It's clearly scraps from mills and cabinet shops that is being made into charcoal, but I don't mind that (in fact, I'm not an enviro-whacko, but recycling the waste in this way appeals to me).
I believe it is an 8 pound bag of coal in the same size bag that is normally 10 pound briquettes. I don't ever use briquettes because I believe that the off-taste folks generally attribute to lighter fluid is actually a binder/filler in the briquettes. I will use a little lighter fluid to get a stacked fire for grilling going and never has anyone detected the taste of the fluid in my food. Iget an off-taste with briquettes, but never with lump charcoal.
Henry Ford invented the briquette to use up the waste from the wooden frames on his Model T's. It's much denser than lump charcoal and I think that leads folks to use a lot of fluid to get it started. Chimneys work OK, but a little fluid that burns off within 2 minutes on a stack of lump 'coal (just enough to get it started) and you're up to speed in 10-15 minutes.
Of course, I have a Performer now, so the propane starts made lighter fluid a thing of the past, but if I run out of propane, I don't hesitate to use a little fluid with my lump 'coal.
Of course, your mileage may vary... |
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swinebuck BBQ Fan

Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Germantown, TN
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Posted: Fri Jan 05 07 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I use the Duraflame style log starter that comes in 1"x2"x6" strips. I break off about an inch or so of the strip place the chimney over the top it and as soon as the lump is started place a coffee can over the starter to smother it and use again when it need to start another chimney.
Thanks
Mike
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roxy BBQ All-Star

Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 6774 Location: Oro Station, Ontario
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Posted: Fri Jan 05 07 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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The chargriller is a great log burner. I like to get things going with charcoal and while its heating up, place a split log ontop of the firebox so it can heat up. This helps the wood to ignite quicker. When the first piece of wood is almost burnt up add another. Once you get the hang of this you can keep the temps pretty even.
Split wood is a lot cheaper than charcoal and gives you a better product then with charcoal and wood chunks. _________________ Chargriller Smokin Pro
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Jason_Florida Newbie
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 43
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Posted: Fri Jan 12 07 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| barnburner180 wrote: | | Malcrow wrote: | | I guess I will use lump after I run out of the charcoal I bought at sams club |
Me too !! Where does everyone get their lump coal from ? |
I have 3 sources for lump charcoal. My local grocery store carries it (shocked me to find it there), and there are 2 grill specialty shops near me that carry it, one is a litle local shop, and the other is BBQs Galore.
After I got my chimney starters, I have not used briquettes since. Lump or wood are my only sources now. |
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Malcrow Newbie
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Metro-Detroit
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Posted: Sun Jan 14 07 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys I will have to switch to lump!
I am still searching for a good source to get logs so far I have only found them online. _________________ Malcrow
Char-griller with SFB
Vermont Casting gas grill (best gas grill I have ever owned.) |
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